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• This mosque, or London caliphate as it should be termed, WILL be dominated by Tablighi Jamaat. How can anybody claim that it won't be?. Tablighi Jamaat are a radical Islamic movement believed by intelligence agencies to be a fertile source for recruiting young extremists. It is Tablighi Jamaat themselves who are proposing this thing in the first place! therefore it shouldn't be allowed to go ahead. Are there not enough mosques in London, and particularly East London?
  
  As a British non-Muslim (The ones that are never consulted about such things)I am vehemently opposed to the building of this mosque, I have also heard that a Christian place of worship will have to be demolished to make way for it. How can that be justified?
  
  

  By  Anonymous, at 11/27/2006 04:49:00 AM  

• here is some more on the pluralist project of Schwarz/Pipe --- click here
  
  tablighi jamaat is about as apolitical as you can get... they are like the jehova witnesses of Muslims...
  
  

  By  Anonymous, at 11/27/2006 09:30:00 AM  

• Also, why should it be a concern whether a group has their own masjid or not? So what if they are "conservative" --- they have done nothing "illegal" -- and most of the mud on 'em have either come from the neo-cons, or liberal/proggie Moslems who are by and large in bed (ideologically speaking) with the neo-cons.
  
  Keep going in this direction, with liberal acquiesce, and pretty soon the only "Muslim" that will be allowed to exist is the one who sits in front of the palace singing laudations of the imperial master/mistress...
  
  

  By  redwood, at 11/27/2006 10:45:00 AM  

• anonymous wrote: "tablighi jamaat is about as apolitical as you can get... they are like the jehova witnesses of Muslims..."
  
  When Abu Izzadeen, the firebrand Islamist militant, berated John Reid last week for "daring" to visit a Muslim area, the Home Secretary bridled, as did many others, at his suggestion that part of London was off limits for a British minister of the Crown.
  
  There was nowhere in this country from which anyone should be excluded, Mr Reid said; nowhere that could be called exclusively Muslim. He was speaking just a couple of Tube stops from West Ham, close to the site for the 2012 Olympic stadium, where a huge row is about to erupt over plans to construct a mosque. However, this is not any old mosque built to serve the local community. It will be the largest place of worship in Europe, a gigantic three-storey Islamic centre, with schools and other facilities, able to hold at least 40,000 worshippers and up to 70,000 if necessary.
  
  Why are we never consulted? They consult with the muslims constantly, but never the indigenous folk of Britain. Why? There's no logic to be found, the only conclusion left is backhanders from saudi. A done deal, it's for sure.
  
  ‘The cultural significance and symbolism of a project of this scale are unmistakable’ wrote Melanie Phillips in her recent book Londonistan. It would make the most powerful statement possible, on the back of the high-visibility Olympic Games, about the primacy of Islam in Britain. The issue here is the preference of Islam above the Christian value, on which is the bed rock that Britain derives its legitimacy.
  
  

  By  Anonymous, at 11/27/2006 04:46:00 PM  

• anon. you are so concerned about the "indigenous folks about Britain" not being consulted. I'm curious were you just as worked up when you were not consulted about the disneyfication of your Thames River? Were you consulted when they commercialized Sherlock Holmes - Baker street?
  
  It seems to me you "indigenous brits" lost your "indigenousness" when you sold out your traditions to commercial enterprises of all types. Tell me, are there more Starbucks, or traditional tea shops in London (OK - i know, tea has a colonial history, but i think you get my point)?
  
  Infact, at this time --- the population that is the least commercialized and disneyfied are probably Muslims in Britain. And, as such, are more true to a Britain of working class women and men with a sense of community, and small scale businesses.
  
  Although, there are some Muslim elements who want to "integrate" Muslims into the commercial market, and so that they may become commodified.
  
  

  By  Anonymous, at 11/27/2006 07:13:00 PM  

• Melanie Phillips is a buddy of Daniel Pipes and a complete twit. See Ministry of truth blog for regular decoonstructions of her insane ranting! And when we have all finished, the issue here is Sean O'Neill taking advice from CIP - who, interesting enough, are also beloved of Mr Pipes and his Neocon chums.
  
  

  By  Julaybib, at 11/28/2006 08:26:00 AM  

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  By  Anonymous, at 11/30/2006 12:36:00 AM  

• The plot thinkens. Schwartz is a regular columnist for the UK magazine, The Spectator - arguably THE most Islamophobic publication in the mainstream. The Spectator has, for example, helped perpeutate the Eurabia myth favoured by the late Nazi rascist Oriana Fallaci.
  
  Wasalaam
  
  

  By  Julaybib, at 12/10/2006 12:45:00 PM  

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